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PNY Releases Self-Contained Liquid Cooled GeForce GTX 580s

PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:34 pm
by (TKC)TheCrimsonStar
Posted on August 17, 2011 10:15 AM by Rob Williams

Care to own a GeForce GTX 580, but don't care for the added heat that such a beastly graphics card can add to a PC? For quite some time, EVGA has been no stranger to releasing its high-end GPUs with water-blocks built-in, and now it seems that PNY is getting in on the action as well. Its latest XLR8 Liquid Cooled GTX 580s come in two flavors, one with built-in water cooling for the GPU, and another that adds CPU cooling into the mix.

Unlike EVGA's solutions, which assume a water cooling setup is already in place, PNY has teamed up with Asetek to provide an all-in-one solution. To help keep both the GPU and CPU cooler (if the CPU block version is used), a 120mm radiator is used, which can be connected to the back of the PC as usual, or even up top. If the GPU-only version of this cooler is used, using a top 120mm spot might be the ideal route to take, so that an air CPU cooler can remain as efficient as possible.

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The graphics card itself looks normal, just like a reference cooler. For a water cooled option, this struck me as a bit odd, but the reason for it is that PNY still wanted to be able to include a fan, offering a two-fold use. If the water cooling setup is doing its job, the fan speed should never raise to audible levels, while on the other hand, if the pump for some reason ever dies, the graphics card could be disconnected from the rest of the contraption and then become a regular air-cooled card again. (This statement is incorrect, PNY followed-up to state: "The PNY Liquid Cooled GTX 580 relies on both the on-board fan and the liquid cooling assembly, so no they cannot be separated.")

According to PNY, this cooler will decrease temperatures by 30%, offer 30% quieter acoustics and offer 10% faster performance (thanks of course to a factory overclock). With its built-in water cooling, neither of these 'XLR8 Liquid Cooled GeForce GTX 580' cards come that cheap, as expected. The GPU-only model retails for $579.99, or about $110 over a standard GTX 580, while the +CPU version retails for $649.99. In the latter, that's about a $180 premium to water cool both the GPU and CPU. Expensive, but convenient.


Source - TechGage

I personally think it's cool that if the liquid cooler ever dies, the air cooler will kick in and your card will still be usable until you get the liquid cooler fixed.

Re: PNY Releases Self-Contained Liquid Cooled GeForce GTX 58

PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:47 pm
by Dragonrage217
I would never buy that because the pump is not at the bottom of the loop so when the liquid thins out and runs low which it will the pump is going to start overworking to be able to move anything other than air. it maybe cool to look at but in all reality when you to part liquid and part air like that you will create more problems the help you need to either get straight liquid or air.

Re: PNY Releases Self-Contained Liquid Cooled GeForce GTX 58

PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:12 pm
by country_boy454
I can tell you one thing, that single 120mm fan wont cool both a gtx580 and a cpu! IMO you'd be better off getting a decent air cooler for the CPU and cooling just the 580. Even then how well will the 120mm fan and rad cool just the 580?

Re: PNY Releases Self-Contained Liquid Cooled GeForce GTX 58

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:42 am
by (TKC)TheCrimsonStar
hasn't been put on the market yet as far as I'm aware. I'd like to see the tests once TechGage gets ahold of it.

Also, plum, the air cooler on the GPU is constantly running in addition to the liquid cooler. The air cooler will cool it a certain amount, then the liquid cooler will cool it down even more.

Re: PNY Releases Self-Contained Liquid Cooled GeForce GTX 58

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:55 am
by Cecil900
It actually is on the market already:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814133398

Re: PNY Releases Self-Contained Liquid Cooled GeForce GTX 58

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:58 am
by (TKC)TheCrimsonStar
I stand corrected :icon_redface: :P

Re: PNY Releases Self-Contained Liquid Cooled GeForce GTX 58

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:30 am
by country_boy454
I saw that they work together to cool it down but its only going to cool it as hot as the processor is. Unless I have the flow backwords, im guessing it goes from the radiator to the CPU then to the GPU and back to the rad. If your getting high 60s low 70s with your CPU then that heat it being transfered through the coolant to the GPU block. Im dealing with similar problems on my custom loop. I have it going pump, GPU, CPU, rad, resevoir, back to pump. My CPU might get 1-3*C cooler than my GPU but thats it.

Re: PNY Releases Self-Contained Liquid Cooled GeForce GTX 58

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:35 am
by (TKC)TheCrimsonStar
Yeah, I posted your reply in the thread at TechGage and the first one to reply back agrees with your point about the single fan not being able to efficiently cool the cpu and gpu.

Re: PNY Releases Self-Contained Liquid Cooled GeForce GTX 58

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:51 am
by Dragonrage217
if there is one thing me and plum know is liquid cooling.

Re: PNY Releases Self-Contained Liquid Cooled GeForce GTX 58

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:47 am
by ThrillaKilla
it'd be cool to see this without the CPU block in the loop, then pair it with one of those corsair hd60's...
two loops, two radiators... of course this probably wouldn't help plum's dual gpu setup tho.

Re: PNY Releases Self-Contained Liquid Cooled GeForce GTX 58

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:55 pm
by (TKC)TheCrimsonStar
ThrillaKilla wrote:it'd be cool to see this without the CPU block in the loop, then pair it with one of those corsair hd60's...
two loops, two radiators... of course this probably wouldn't help plum's dual gpu setup tho.


There is a GPU-only variant of this too.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814133399

Re: PNY Releases Self-Contained Liquid Cooled GeForce GTX 58

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:37 pm
by ThrillaKilla
(TKC)TheCrimsonStar wrote:
ThrillaKilla wrote:it'd be cool to see this without the CPU block in the loop, then pair it with one of those corsair hd60's...
two loops, two radiators... of course this probably wouldn't help plum's dual gpu setup tho.


There is a GPU-only variant of this too.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814133399

awesome! ok now it'd be cool to see this in the $300 or less price range.. geesh, who can afford these $600 cards!! geesh!!

Re: PNY Releases Self-Contained Liquid Cooled GeForce GTX 58

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:57 pm
by country_boy454
I think it would be cool to see a company like Corsair or someone else make a standalone liquid cooler for graphics cards. It would be like the CPU coolers except for GPUs. It would offer more of an option for those who dont want the headaches of a custom loop.

Re: PNY Releases Self-Contained Liquid Cooled GeForce GTX 58

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:46 pm
by Dragonrage217
If i wanted liquid cooling on a 580 i would go with this gpu full block
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12284 ... 0c311s1351
The Pump
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9495/ ... 30c107s153
The Radiator
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12485 ... s570#blank
With 4 of these
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2466/ ... 36c331s518
The tubing
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7100/ ... g30c99s172
And Silencers
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/revie ... 47c111s200
With everything here take the pump and set it under the card pump it out of the case using a modified holes to support the tubing lay the rad down and have the fans set on top using the silencers to help minimize sound even more for those silent types making the gpu cool quiet and not affecting the case temp at all.
Edit: I would add into the mix
Filter for dust
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11723 ... s548#blank
and coolant
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/5597/ ... _Blue.html
and not forgetting the gpu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814130655
more expensive than the contained system but a lot better than it for performance with out having issues with heat build up in case.

Re: PNY Releases Self-Contained Liquid Cooled GeForce GTX 58

PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:56 am
by (TKC)TheCrimsonStar
lol you posted the cooling liquid under the filter AND the liquid :icon_razz:

Dragonrage217 wrote:Filter for dust
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/5597/ ... _Blue.html
and coolant
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/5597/ ... _Blue.html